Manchester City v Manchester United - FA CUP FINAL 25/05/24 3pm KO - Official Match Thread

https://x.com/mailsport/status/1794799632868098536?s=46

100% intentional

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

https://youtu.be/FBZae0JYNoU?si=dD_tLssYtD0HX0Cv


Worth watching just for the Korean lad and his drums

Utterly horrendous.
How people manage to sit through that gaggle of @#%&!s for 90 mins whilst the cup final is on fries my brain

Originally Posted by Zorg

https://x.com/mailsport/status/1794799632868098536?s=46

100% intentional

tbh, snide as it was, Evans looked like such a @#%&!. (and I like him)

he wasn't fouled.

no way would the ref have given it, if it had been on the pitch.

Originally Posted by Stickman

tbh, snide as it was, Evans looked like such a @#%&!. (and I like him)

Evans was clearly on the wind up tbf

Originally Posted by Dacter

Evans was clearly on the wind up tbf

I know. Would have been better if he’d given Bernardo a stiff shoulder or something though.

Evans might be the best cheap free kick winner in the league. Never seen him not win a foul when looking for one

Originally Posted by History

Evans might be the best cheap free kick winner in the league. Never seen him not win a foul when looking for one

Best evidenced when he won a free kick from booting Drogba in the chest

https://x.com/TenHagBall_/status/1795490208365916251?s=19

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Some feat by Goldbridge to still manage to be the biggest @#%&! in that lot

Nope, even he was topped by chippy tits Saeed

Originally Posted by Time For Heroes

Nope, even he was topped by chippy tits Saeed

I hate that @#%&! more than any other fan cammer. Him and Flex are apex £#%&!ers.

https://youtu.be/Fz9y2QAazR4?si=1DqSOkyy2HAT7M4L

I know it’s on the their true brand. But what scruffy @#%&!s City are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub33O-y_1k8

Martinez loves it.

Also maybe getting old, but bloody lovely seeing the two teenagers properly celebrating together the end

Originally Posted by thatsfuctit

I know it’s on the their true brand. But what scruffy @#%&!s City are.

Disgrace to turn up to the FA cup final dressed like that. They looked like they were there to wire up the Sky box

Another clue as to what a tacky, plastic piece of tat they are.

Just watching those youtube vids above again, I'm more convinced than ever that the real star of the show was big Willy Kambwala. Absolute top red

Brilliant piece. Tremendous from Ten Hag. Bald is actually best.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/552...shared-article

C&P'd

How Ten Hag inspired FA Cup win: Al Pacino team talk, memories of Afghanistan and a 10-day tactical plan








By Laurie Whitwell and Adam Crafton

2h ago

Erik ten Hag was in his own version of the trenches, figuring out how to battle back against bad results, when he walked Carrington with a member of Manchester United’s security personnel. He asked his colleague about her experiences, and she explained her background in the British military, including an assignment in Helmand Province in Afghanistan.In the week leading up to the FA Cup final against Manchester City, Ten Hag found himself recalling this conversation as he searched for novel ways to inspire a performance from his team. The backdrop was a difficult season in which United finished the Premier League campaign in eighth and were knocked out of the Champions League in the group stage.

The FA Cup final against Pep Guardiola’s imperious City represented an opportunity for redemption, and Ten Hag may have been hoping for a dose of salvation when it came to his position as manager of United.

So Ten Hag became inventive. He asked United’s security staffer to record a video for his team, which was shown to the players at the Marriott hotel in London in the lead-up to the final. The Dutchman was so moved by his colleague’s story that he reserved the video for his final team meeting with the squad before they left for Wembley on Saturday morning.

In the video, the United security officer explained how one day in Afghanistan, she became trapped in a village with her platoon. Outnumbered, nobody thought they had a chance of escaping the threat before them. But, she explained, they worked together, and many fought their way out. Sadly, however, a small number of her colleagues died along the way, but in representing their country, they had sacrificed their lives to valiantly save villagers.

She was emotional as she spoke, and it represented powerful messaging that resonated strongly with United’s players; stick together, back each other up, stay on the front foot and fight to win. The video of the security personnel telling her story intermingled with images of United players winning duels during games, increasing the relevance to their own against-all-odds mission before them.

She was not present in the room when the video played, but an indication of the impact it had came after the game when the players learned that she had been guarding the directors’ box at Wembley during the final, where owners Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Avram Glazer were seated, as well as club legend Sir Alex Ferguson and the future King of the United Kingdom, Prince William. United’s players invited her down to the dressing room, where they thanked her for the video, with some telling


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The video, of course, was only one part of Ten Hag’s strategy, which had started 10 days before the final as he trialled a new tactical setup in United’s 3-2 victory against Newcastle United at Old Trafford. He dropped Rasmus Hojlund, the club’s only fit recognised striker, to the substitutes’ bench, and stiffened up the centre of the pitch by playing Sofyan Amrabat alongside a more restrained Kobbie Mainoo, as well as Bruno Fernandes and Scott The Scottish Player in flexible midfield roles that doubled up as false nines.

United replicated the system for the 2-0 win at Brighton on the final day of the season. The performance was imperfect but Ten Hag had been convinced by its merits as a way to combat Guardiola’s City. Those wins also meant Ten Hag gained buy-in from the players over the unorthodox formation, which was akin to a compact 4-2-4 shape.

While Ten Hag was sure of his system, the major decision for the final came in personnel. His first-choice defensive pairing Raphael Varane and Lisandro Martinez were fit enough to start the match, while Mainoo, Fernandes and The Scottish Player were certain starters. The quandary was whether to stick with Amrabat in holding midfield or restore the five-time Champions League winner Casemiro, who had deputised in central defence due to a spate of injuries.

As The Athletic revealed on the eve of the game, Ten Hag’s choice was bold; he set up in training for much of the week with Amrabat as a starter and Casemiro as a substitute. It was only on the day of the game, after the team sheets were originally handed in with Casemiro on the bench, that the Brazilian then withdrew, with the club and his representatives saying that the player had complained of tightness in his hamstring.

But make no mistake, Amrabat’s selection was tactical and it turned out to be a masterstroke against City, who Ten Hag described after the game as “the best team in the world”. The ‘box’ midfield outnumbered City centrally, forcing them wide, with Marcus Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho ready to spring forward to take advantage of space left by Guardiola’s advanced full-backs.

Other tweaks worked too. Assistant Steve McClaren, responsible for set pieces since Eric Ramsay’s departure, chose Mainoo to mark Erling Haaland due to his strength, and was proved right when the 19-year-old outmuscled the 6ft 4in (193cm) striker at a late corner.


her she had helped inspire them.


(Marc Atkins/Getty Images)

Ten Hag said he felt the belief growing in his team throughout the week.

Every players’ family was asked to send a letter to their loved one for them to read when they arrived at the hotel on Friday. Some families sent paintings by their kids, or family photos. These were all sent ahead and placed in each players’ room in advance of team arrival

United also worked with Bruno Fernandes on a personal letter to supporters from their captain, published on the Players’ Tribune website, in which the Portuguese midfielder recalled how he cried when his agent told him a deal to join the club was done in January 2020, how his children sing songs about United going to Wembley, and he appeared to commit himself to the club after some recent speculation about the future.

“After this difficult season, it is my responsibility to give more,” Fernandes wrote. “It starts with me. And it starts tomorrow. We have to give everything in this last match against City, and we have to move forward.

“I love to step out at Old Trafford more than anything in the world. I don’t want to leave. This has always been my ultimate dream.

“I just want my expectations to fit with the expectations of the club. If you go talk to any fan, they will tell you the same thing. We want to compete for the league. We want to be playing Champions League football. We want to be in cup finals. That is the standard. That is what I want. That is what you all deserve.”




(Ash Donelon/Manchester United via Getty Images)

While United supporters may have been boosted, they were also spooked when news reports emerged detailing how, in the lead-up to the match, United’s hierarchy had been contacting the entourages of candidates, including the Ipswich Town head coach Kieran McKenna, to replace Ten Hag. It overshadowed the external build-up to the final and continues to dominate coverage of United as media and supporters wonder how part-owner INEOS will move forwards.

Behind the scenes, however, Ten Hag and his staff had one more trick up their sleeves. His assistant coach Mitchell van der Gaag held a tactical meeting on Friday afternoon, by which time it became clear that Amrabat was likely to start the game ahead of Casemiro. Before delivering the plan, Van der Gaag presented a video of his own. This time, it was an edit from the 1999 American sports movie Any Given Sunday and the iconic motivational speech given by coach Tony D’Amato, played by Al Pacino, addressed to his Miami Sharks. Cutting between D’Amato’s locker room and images from United’s period under Ten Hag, Pacino’s speech provided the voiceover, crossing over with U2’s hit song One.

Pacino’s words summed up United’s own season. “Now either we heal as a team or we’re gonna crumble, inch by inch, play by play, ’til we’re finished. We’re in hell right now, gentlemen, believe me. And, we can stay here — get the s*** kicked out of us — or we can fight our way back into the light. We can climb outta hell one inch at a time.”

Every United player was present in the meeting, and as Pacino’s speech spoke about the narrow inches of elite sport — “one half a step too late, or too early, and you don’t quite make it. One half-second too slow, too fast, you don’t quite catch it” — the video relived Garnacho’s disallowed offside goal at Arsenal earlier in the season, where United plucked defeat from the jaws of victory, as well as Victor Torp’s disallowed goal for Coventry City against United in the semi-final at Wembley, where United came within a whisker of defeat.

Those who saw the video recalled how every player across the squad featured in the showreel; top-class saves by Andre Onana, United defenders clearing shots off the line and memorable goals such as The Scottish Player’s late winning header against Brentford and Garnacho’s overhead kick at Everton.

In essence, Ten Hag and Van der Gaag sought to remind United’s players what they are capable of and in Pacino’s words, urged them to “heal as a team”, rather than “dying as individuals”. It was also a raw encapsulation of United’s pleasure and pain over the past season, encouraging them to “climb outta hell” while showing clips of United’s players applauding their supporters after a recent 4-0 defeat at Crystal Palace in the Premier League, as well as the trauma of Chelsea’s dramatic 4-3 win over United in April. The aim was to expose United’s players to their own highs and lows, seeking to replicate the highs and galvanise the team by avoiding a repeat of the lows.

“Now I can’t make you do it,” says Pacino. “You got to look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes! Now I think you’re gonna see a guy who will go that inch with you. You’re gonna see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows, when it comes down to it, you’re gonna do the same for him!

“That’s a team, gentleman! And, either we heal, now, as a team, or we will die as individuals. That’s football guys. That’s all it is.

“Now, what are you gonna do?”

That was the question to United’s players. Their answer? Win the FA Cup.

(Top photos: Getty Images)

https://youtu.be/H7lVWtXsquE?si=Wdqi5f0Oxu8faDFz

Full journey.

Originally Posted by suedeshoes

Brilliant piece. Tremendous from Ten Hag. Bald is actually best.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/552...shared-article

The best bit about that is the autocorrect to "Scott the Scottish Player"

The worst?

Before delivering the plan, Van der Gaag presented a video of his own. This time, it was an edit from the 1999 American sports movie Any Given Sunday and the iconic motivational speech given by coach Tony D’Amato, played by Al Pacino, addressed to his Miami Sharks. Cutting between D’Amato’s locker room and images from United’s period under Ten Hag, Pacino’s speech provided the voiceover, crossing over with U2’s hit song One.

That is gonna take some beating.

Why does grinchy hate winning things ?