PAID: Manchester United v Valencia --Official Match Thread

Originally Posted by ScarFace

Valencia have won twice all season.

we have won once at home

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Barely been a sign of coaching in the 2 years he has been here.

You might have at least expected some of that from him.

Originally Posted by plopborsky

we have won once at home

Bottle it against Newcastle and he’s done now. Otherwise, he might hang on for another month.

Either way, he’s gone. We’ve gone, it’s gone. gone gone gone

And if I see Rashford take another set piece it'll be too soon.

£#%&!ing hell do we even practice this shit in training? Nobody knows what runs to make, Rashford doesn't know what area to put the ball in and all we did was give Valencia's keeper some nice easy catches.

Originally Posted by sa7

I’d be properly pissed off if I was a Valencia fan. They show the tiniest bit of composure in the final third and they win that game. Their forwards were like headless chickens when it counted.

They've got a failed Bolton striker up front and Scrappy Doo on the right wing. They're awful but they'll back themselves to win at home.

Juventus are going to 6/6 and Young Boys 0/6. Utd will need a result in Spain to qualify.

club ambassador Smalling tonight sent out to placate the frustrated fans

Play Sanchez down the middle rashford and martial either side take rom out for a bit ffs he’s continually dropped players for less ..

Originally Posted by silv

club ambassador Smalling tonight sent out to placate the frustrated fans

Another savvy move.

If he gets deservedly lynched it can be played down as a racial incident.

Endlessly clever the United spin machine.

Smalling reckons the players are trying as hard as they can, which is worrying.

Thought Rashford at least came out of the game with a little credit. Tried getting into space, running at defenders and making things happen. Just had no support whatsoever. Martial looked a threat when he came on but is obviously rusty due to lack of game time.

Hard to say anything positive about the rest. Looked like they'd rather be anywhere else.

Originally Posted by Buck

They've got a failed Bolton striker up front and Scrappy Doo on the right wing. They're awful but they'll back themselves to win at home.

Juventus are going to 6/6 and Young Boys 0/6. Utd will need a result in Spain to qualify.

After Juve dismantle united they may take the foot of the gas for valencia

Originally Posted by Sparky***

£#%&!ing hell do we even practice this shit in training?

[Jammy] It's not the manager's job to arrange any training [Jammy]

Didn't watch. Did Saffers' beloved time-served matchgoing Reds sing Mou Mou songs non-stop for the duration?

Originally Posted by TheKitchenSink

Smalling reckons the players are trying as hard as they can, which is worrying.

Thought Rashford at least came out of the game with a little credit. Tried getting into space, running at defenders and making things happen. Just had no support whatsoever. Martial looked a threat when he came on but is obviously rusty due to lack of game time.

Hard to say anything positive about the rest. Looked like they'd rather be anywhere else.

Shaw was our best player. Couldn’t find much fault with him tonight.

Rashford showed some endeavour but why he was continuing to take corners is beyond me. How can a professional footballer produce such consistently dreadful deliveries under no pressure? The way our atrocious, drifting giants lumber around the box, we need the corners to be on point to have any chance of scoring from them.

One substitute...he made ONE £#%&!ing substitute. The stupid @#%&!

Originally Posted by armchair

we look like the least coached team in the prem too.

who to blame, though..... who to blame?

Originally Posted by Buck

They've got a failed Bolton striker up front and Scrappy Doo on the right wing. They're awful but they'll back themselves to win at home.

Juventus are going to 6/6 and Young Boys 0/6. Utd will need a result in Spain to qualify.

Originally Posted by sa7

Shaw was our best player. Couldn’t find much fault with him tonight.

Rashford showed some endeavour but why he was continuing to take corners is beyond me. How can a professional footballer produce such consistently dreadful deliveries under no pressure? The way our atrocious, drifting giants lumber around the box, we need the corners to be on point to have any chance of scoring from them.

One substitute...he made ONE £#%&!ing substitute. The stupid @#%&!

Yeah Shaw was fine as well. Rashford's corners aren't great but why the £#%&! is he even on them? Is everybody else even worse?

Jose saying "we don't have the technical quality" in defence. Repeating that we overachieved last season, making it obvious that he thinks he isn't the problem, it's the lack of backing from Woodward.

Originally Posted by TheKitchenSink

Repeating that we overachieved last season, making it obvious that he thinks he isn't the problem, it's the lack of backing from Woodward.

The scary thing is, he is probably right there.

I think what sums up the decline of Sanchez is how hesitant he is to shoot. He was a greedy £#%&!er at Arsenal but at least he backed himself. I always thought of him as a btec Ronaldo since his game was extremely single-minded yet here he barely threatens the goal. Probably due to him losing a yard of pace which means he can't get beyond defenders anymore, but he rarely tries his luck from distance. I hate it when he just chips the ball into the box.

Originally Posted by AK14

mou has made every player worse. no player is playing their best football ever.

He'll never learn that if you coach a team to be on the front foot of games you also relieve pressure on the defence. What was successful for him in the past is yesterday's style. Lets not forget we were one kick away from being eliminated from the Europa because he decided to concede 70% of the ball at Old Trafford to a mid table Spanish club. The style of play has barely improved from then, he just bought a few players of his own to execute it. What we're seeing now is a paralysis where we are a nothing team. Not drilled going forwards hence we look like strangers, and not settled at the back hence we get played around easily. We're not good at any facets of football. At least some other clubs know to make up for a shit defence they need to have a decent attack. And they work on it and with habits developing and momentum gaining they pick up big wins which in turn gives a bit of a fear factor. One of the key reasons City found it so easy was their run of big wins developed an aura that they really were a super team - when actually they started the season slowly. Their confidence grew though and their opponents fears did as well.

Mourinho's teams of the past used to have an identity that made them a force. This United team has an identity that makes us a farce. We're a reflection of the manager who is just drifting in his thoughts. Does he want to be here? Maybe he does but his negative mindset transmits to the players and for that reason alone I would make the change.

Originally Posted by armchair

I think matic is a real issue. he is so slow and slows the game down everytime he is on the ball.

Yep.

Was that his preferred midfield three tonight? Then said after the match that 'we' don't have the technical ability to build from the back. No shit pal. Fellaini might come alive at the death when balls are chucked into the box but for 80mins prior he will needlessly foul, be caught out of position, pass the ball sideways and backwards, and saunter around the pitch barely getting above a gentle jog.

Matic not much better.

United bought Fred in the Summer, play him. There's also the other young Brazilian who seems to be able to pass the £#%&!ing ball forwards. How quaint.

Oh, the club captain and right back. Jesus £#%&!ing wept.