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The problem is that just makes a mockery out of VAR as a thing. If it's still getting loads of decisions wrong and is wildly inconsistent then what's the point in it at all? It's just spending a load more money per match, sucking any enjoyment out of a goal and stopping the game for minutes at a time to get to the same place as where we started, but with all the negative aspects on top. |
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We've had 4 penalties in 2 years. It's shocking. What £#%&!s me off, more than anything at the moment, is a lack of highlighting this from EtH. It seems to work for the whinging @#%&!s out there - Klopp, Pep, Arteta (barring last night, but he'll be getting penalties AOTS now) etc. Some of the decisions do make you wonder though. Rasmus vs Rodri last week was the apex of baffling decisions, if you go on the percentage on the same 'fouls' being given before or after. Rasmus being hauled down at Arsenal was brushed off by Dermot and friends but the City penalty was deemed like it was nailed on. Its the double standards, the lack of a dialogue and smug faceless @#%&!s not having to explain why 'A' is given but 'B' isn't. EtH is missing a trick by not opening his mouth though, NQAT. |
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I'm not being scouse (despite what Bellers says) but it really does seem like "Nope, it's United - not looking!" - especially if you look at all the other decisions that game. Garnacho wasn't offside and Saka could've easily seen red for an OTT challenge. That one, again, was "hmmm, yeah....he's gone over the top buy yeah...booking is fine". Palace last season away, when The Scottish Player was scythed down - you've never seen a more blatant penalty. Its not given and its baffling, then Palace score at the death. There's far too many incidents now to think it's just bad calls. We've had easily the worst and more frequent calls against us than any other team. Yes, every team can say they've had iffy calls. But 4 penalties in 2 years and a whole swathe of mental calls? "Subjective offside" Seriously, who's ever heard that mentioned before? |
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Always question myself with this stuff but when level heads like Zorg and Stickers question it…
Something seriously off with this shit. £#%&!ing refs constantly, directly affecting outcomes with zero accountability needs looking at. You can even suspect certain refs (like the schoolboy, who literally stopped the game from his var station and as good as told the ref what he had to do) but it has become endemic, almost regardless of the ref The game is so £#%&!ed everywhere you look: Permitted, selected takeovers FIFA Uefa Fa PL Refs Media Agents @#%&!ish players The only aspect with any integrity are the fans and yet, we all feed it Beginning to not even care if it went Superleague. Game is absolutely £#%&!ed. |
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Need a good football journalist out there to investigate how all this soft PR from the oil countries is involving refs. Going to be tough though as most journalists enjoy the game gravy train.
If you are a ref and you get a 5 star paid junket to the UAE to do some 'training', guaranteed you will treat them different, no matter how much you say it doesn't make a difference. You want that next invite right? Back in one of my old jobs, I'd get all sort of invites and gifts from media companies. I'd be lying if I said none of this had an impact on me. Refs should be banned from taking any kind of payment from a country that owns a PL club. Full stop. |
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But some of them have been incredible - the handball at Spurs being one of the very worst. Imagine the impact if that had been given, on both clubs. It was pretty much the definition of handball and it's just incomprehensible how anyone could look at that and think it wasn't, and of course since then we've seen several identical incidents given without any protest. |
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Ten Hag needs to be calling this out every game.
It's all very well playing nice with the refs, but look where that's got us. I cannot believe that Ferguson wasn't telling him to be on the refs 24/7 when they had that tete-a-tete. It's up to Hag to bring this up and keep hammering these @#%&!s every time they pull some bullshit. |
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Compare that with them giving out penatlies like against Sheff Utd for instance where a ball is just slung into the box from a wide area and The Scottish Player who's arm is by his side and can't get it out the way quick enough and it's hard to not think something dodgy is going on. |
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If a player spits at another player or @#%&!s another player off the ball and the ref doesn't see it, they're accountable (unless you're Guimaraes). If a manager calls the refree a joke or says a decision is outrageous, they're accountable and are usually punished. Why ar referees never asked to explain a game deciding decision or a decision that is totally wrong? I can't comprehend it. |
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I think we’ve already got too many refs and ex refs sticking their oar in. We’ve seen what they’re like. They just defend the decisions, themselves and their mates. They released the audio of the spurs v Liverpool clip. Did it make it any better? Did it tell you anything you didn’t already know? Personally, I couldn’t give a £#%&! about an explanation or an apology from a referee. Just do better. I think they should have less of a platform and focus, not more. |
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For instance, the Garnacho handball at Spurs and then the Arsenal handball vs Spurs. Exactly the same, two different outcomes. It'd be £#%&!ing marvellous to be able to show both incidents and ask PGMOL what the £#%&!ing difference is. The absolute lack of an explanation is enraging. |
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