Ralf Rangnick vs the people of utdforum

Plain truth… but.. but we only finished 2nd and lost to City in the final. He didn’t even sign anyone in January. Fraud, obvs,

Originally Posted by Neo

A professional bluffer. The biggest blag artist in European football.

He's the sporting equivalent of a McKinsey consultant informing a FTSE 250 that in order to make more money they have to cut costs and increase revenue, then charging a six-figure fee for such groundbreaking insight.

International football management is a collection of average Joes, which is understandable considering the drop in pay compared to top level club management. Even Nagelsmann is only doing the Germany job as a stop-gap to rebuild his reputation after it took a hit at Bayern. The rest are your Southgates, Steve Clarkes, Deschamps and Rangnicks. Average managers, not cut out for elite level club football.

'Der Gaffer' can do one, the boring bastard.

I had a soft spot for Ralf, he made it quite clear he had utter contempt for 80% of our squad. It made him very relatable.

Originally Posted by Offerington

World cup winning Deschamps? Runner up in WC and Euros as well?

Ey up, Gareth Southgate’s in.

Originally Posted by Offerington

World cup winning Deschamps? Runner up in WC and Euros as well?

Deschamps has been successful at international level (if 1 trophy in 12 years is success), but my point is that the elite football managers are all doing it at club level. Joachim Löw is another example - great for Germany, but could he translate that success to a week-in-week-out club role?

Rangnick's record at club level is not impressive, so I would not rate him as an elite manager.

Originally Posted by Medlock

Can't think on any positives about his time here. That performance at Newcastle away

Leeds away.

When they’d scabbed two goals in the blink of an eye, and we were all concerned it was going to be another brutal collapse, he made a couple of good subs to regain control and won the game.

It's a hard one to call.

On one hand being successful with the Austrian National Team doesn't equate to being able to manage at the top level, and he wasn't exactly a strategic dynamo during his time at United.

On the other hand, we had just watched a group of senior players down tools to get rid of Ole in the same fashion they did with Mourhino...they were never going to give him the time or day as intern manager.

Originally Posted by AK14

Yup, iirc he was going to be a consultant after the initial interim manager role.

I think ETH told him to do one and then obviously found out the hard way that a lot of what he said about the @#%&!s within the club was in fact correct.

Tenners had to distance himself though tbf, he’d have lost the dressing room on the first day if the job if not.

This.

Typical Dutch arrogance based on WW2.

Ralf is the Bret Hart of football.

A lone voice of truth and courage.

We never deserved Ralf.

Blaming him misses the point entirely. He was just more evidence of a horribly mismanaged club.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

When this absolute fraud took over from Ole, we were in the FA cup, in the champions league and still in contention for top 4....

This gengenpress charlatan had us playing some of the worst football I've seen ..

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Dumped out the cup by a championship team, out of Europe and plummeting in the league, never two weeks the same, a man that dresses like a peado scout leader propped up by a collection of sporting outcasts...

He chose Chris Armas a Lidl vin diesel from the new York jet founders soccer team.... This is a man that took directions ON match day from a person streaming the match in the middle east...

All instructions passed down to Grandad Ralf as Brighton ran in a 4th..

The football was boring,this pressers boring, zero energy, ideas or vim..

He was basically coaching us into a mid table midlands club...

But then he called out the Glazer's.... £#%&!ing brilliant, he said we needed an overhaul whilst taking the pay from his masters...

Hindsight Ragnick is a strong factor on here, if you remember the football, results and feeling around the place you'd NEVER want to see or hear about his team's again...

Austria are currently doing ok, let's see how far they go...

As for the Fat titted, stare in red bull, crown green #@&%!, an utter Fraud..

This,

This is your Messiah....?

Yep.

"You're shite and you need new players. That will be £2 million pounds, please."

Thanks for everything, Ralf

What a load of codswallop. It takes a man of real character to call out the very people signing his cheque. Ole didn't. Even Fergie didn't. No manager in the world, coming in as a lame-duck interim with that group of players had a hope in hell. Imagine the first session telling Ronaldo how to lead the press and him saying no.

Sad to see the reach-arounds side with Arnold and the Glazers against the only man in the last 20 years to speak out on behalf of the club itself.

Originally Posted by Jack Duckworth

Yep.

"You're shite and you need new players. That will be £2 million pounds, please."

Thanks for everything, Ralf

If we had taken this advice, it would've been the best £2M Utd had ever spent.

Originally Posted by Lok

He knows his onions and was clearly right about the state of our squad. Not convinced he's a good club manager and he offended so many that it made it impossible for him to stay.

We'd have been in a lot better place if he was moved upstairs and was allowed to appoint a manager. With some power in a senior position he'd have been able to help shape us into what we need to be.

Instead, the Glazers interviewed EtH and he told them everything they wanted to hear (he can work with the current players). Rather than listen to Rangnick who said we need to build again. We're slowly getting people behind the scenes who apparently know what they're doing so hopefully we'll finally push on, but I think it would have been a lot better with Rangnick rather than Jason Wilcox. Time will tell.

I guess your right the proof will be in the pudding.

Originally Posted by Gordon Hill

I guess your right the proof will be in the pudding.

I am thinking you have a point.

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Originally Posted by BigRonManager

What a load of codswallop. It takes a man of real character to call out the very people signing his cheque. Ole didn't. Even Fergie didn't. No manager in the world, coming in as a lame-duck interim with that group of players had a hope in hell. Imagine the first session telling Ronaldo how to lead the press and him saying no.

Sad to see the reach-arounds side with Arnold and the Glazers against the only man in the last 20 years to speak out on behalf of the club itself.

Dealing with snowflakes.

Ron knows

Bunker Buster, dunk, guerreiro, M33mike, Medlock, NedKelly, Neo, ScarFace

A few Ole true believers in there. A psychologist could have a field day with that.

Displacement Theory perhaps?

In psychology, displacement (German: Verschiebung, lit. 'shift, move') is an unconscious defence mechanism whereby the mind substitutes either a new aim or a new object for things felt in their original form to be dangerous or unacceptable.[1]

Displacement of object: Feelings that are connected with one person are displaced onto another person. A man who has had a bad day at the office, comes home and yells at his wife and children, is displacing his anger from the workplace onto his family. Freud[5] thought that when children have animal phobias, they may be displacing fears of their parents onto an animal.

Displacement of attribution: A characteristic that one perceives in oneself but seems unacceptable is instead attributed to another person. This is essentially the mechanism of psychological projection; an aspect of the self is projected (displaced) onto someone else. Freud[6] wrote that people commonly displace their own desires onto God’s will.

Said what we all already knew but my word, he was absolutely honking on the sideline.

Originally Posted by believe

Ey up, Gareth Southgate’s in.

Please no no no no, he would make, as he would be Even worse than David Moyes!

Maintained 100 he was up to the job but was let down by the players. The full on reactionary mode of this place can only see as far as the end of its nose sometimes.