What line up would you pick for England?

Surely theres got to be a better starting XI than Southgate's

Originally Posted by silv

Surely theres got to be a better starting XI than Southgate's

For the next game, I’d keep the defence as it is, with this in front of them

Rice - Bellingham

Saka - Foden - Palmer

Kane

One without a shite fullback in midfield.

And one with Cole Palmer in it.

Originally Posted by suedeshoes

And one with Cole Palmer in it.

https://x.com/JPMillwall2/status/1803857445736857898?t=VwqgftJldxnaobpamkwZgQ&s=19

It's not hard is it. You get a midfielder in midfield to play alongside Rice and Tell foden to keep wide on the left.

Also tell the team to play 10 yards further up the £#%&!ing pitch.

What the £#%&! has he taken luke shaw out there for? Honestly why? What's the £#%&!ing point? He's not going to get more than maybe one half of football if he's lucky. Absolute waste of a plane ticket.

Not bringing Grealish out there who can at least hold the ball and win free kicks is absolutely brain dead tbh.

walker - stones - guehi - shaw

rice - wharton - mainoo

saka - bellingham - palmer

and I'm not even sure about saka.

would not bother with trent or gallagher. utter gash.

Originally Posted by jem

walker - stones - guehi - shaw

rice - wharton - mainoo

saka - bellingham - palmer

and I'm not even sure about saka.

would not bother with trent or gallagher. utter gash.

Of course Jem turns up to say something completely £#%&!ing absurd.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Of course Jem turns up to say something completely £#%&!ing absurd.

right. because southgate bringing grealish to sit on the bench makes sense.

foden, kane and saka have been shit.

trent and gallagher are shit.

Someone has to take the hit and be dropped .

Maybe try something different. 4 4 2 diamond, midfield and attack something like,

Rice
Bellingham foden
Palmer
Kane. Watkins


Not the most defensive but £#%&! it, take risks play attacking. You have two full backs who are good (Walker atleast) in attacking positions. Get rice to hold up and have the three midfielders infront of them try to find the two strikers.

Bellingham foden and palmer all have a decent engine on them anyway, they can press and track back. It’s not like having players who can’t /wont put in the effort

Have Watkins pace and Kanes classic center forward ability of finding space and scoring in the box.

Pickford

Walker - Stones - Branthwaite

Alexander-Arnold - Mainoo - Rice - Saka

Bellingham - Kane - Foden

For the final group game…

Pickford

Walker Stones Guehi Gomez

Rice Mainoo Bellingham

Palmer Kane Gordon

Wharton is getting minutes.

Not rocket science. Fill the positions with players who have played there all season (except LB because he didn't bring one who wasn't; injured )

T-REx
Walker Stones Guehi Trippier
Mainoo Rice
Bellingham
Saka Kane Gordon

Alternatively play Bellingham with Rice and Foden or Palmer for Mainoo. A

Foden No.10

Bellingham and Rice in behind

One of the 2 or 3 options we have on the bench on the left.

I can half understand why he didn't move Foden and Bellingham in his starting lineup yesterday with how well Bellingham did against Serbia, but it was clear early on yesterday that it wasn't working and he'd get more out of two fantastic players if he changed it.

There's no excuse for starting Alexander-Arnold in the middle again. Imagine being one of the two actual midfielders that had good seasons sitting on the bench while a right back that can't play in midfield stinks up the place

Probably a great idea in his head 'Every time Trent picks up the ball up he fires a hollywood ball over the top and we score. We can't lose...'. In reality he can barely find a teammate 8 yards away and every set piece he's taken has been utter shite.

For United at the end of the season (last 3 games) it was dropping a striker who being quite isolated in of an extra pushed up midfielder (McT alongside Bruno) that got us going. I could see something similar working for England with say Bellingham alongside Foden (or Palmer) with two wide players and another midfielder with Rice in the "Amrabat role" probably Mainoo. Obviously would be a big call to drop Kane but would give them more energy/intensity and give them more presence further up the pitch.

Originally Posted by Medlock

For United at the end of the season (last 3 games) it was dropping a striker who being quite isolated in of an extra pushed up midfielder (McT alongside Bruno) that got us going. I could see something similar working for England with say Bellingham alongside Foden (or Palmer) with two wide players and another midfielder with Rice in the "Amrabat role" probably Mainoo. Obviously would be a big call to drop Kane but would give them more energy/intensity and give them more presence further up the pitch.

He’s never dropping Kane, mate and probably doesn’t need to Stop shoehorning the fb into a mf area ffs and play a proper one there. Don’t think too much has to change but at least be prepared to make a positive sub if it isn’t enough. Both games, took an early lead and sat back with no counter. Not even a mf capable of supplying. Worked (sort of) first time but not the next. Both games were begging for him to play on the counter, but because he had no mf, looked clueless Got away with it, first game but not the next

Pickford

Walker - Stones - Guehi - Shaw (if fit)

Bellingham - Rice

Saka - Foden - Palmer

Kane

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

Pickford

Walker - Stones - Guehi - Shaw (if fit)

Bellingham - Rice

Saka - Foden - Palmer

Kane

This

It’s clearly the best starting XI

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

Pickford

Walker - Stones - Guehi - Shaw (if fit)

Bellingham - Rice

Saka - Foden - Palmer

Kane

this, except Gordon over Palmer. there is a chronic lack of pace in the current team

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

Pickford

Walker - Stones - Guehi - Shaw (if fit)

Bellingham - Rice

Saka - Foden - Palmer

Kane

Made how we can all suss this out but Southgate is experimenting with Diet James Ward Prowse in midfield.

Originally Posted by pedr0

this, except Gordon over Palmer. there is a chronic lack of pace in the current team

Agree. Playing palmer on the left solves nothing. He will drift inside an England will once again be playing without any attack coming down the left.

Play a winger on the left. Play a proper midfielder. Really not that difficult. Trippier will still be a big issue but better one problem position than three.