Martial is truly special

What a 3 hours they were though eh!

Originally Posted by Ethers

What a 3 hours they were though eh!

Won't forget where I was when o.g. gave us a vital win to overtake Leicester (for an afternoon)

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

A wum repeated often enough is still a wum, September 26 we beat Sunderland to go top by a point, we stayed there for a week. The only thing we managed in November was to win the early KO at Watford and go top for about 3 hours before everybody else had played

FFS

BBC reporting Martial staying, that explains why he's all of a sudden working hard. Realised why he isnt playing weekly at OT, and why no big club would touch him this summer. Needs to fight for his career this season.

Originally Posted by utd99

Maybe not, but then again they didn’t with van Gaal either. It was only when the shit on a stick football was married to utter failure in the league that people wanted action. It will be the same with Mourinho. It would be the same with anyone.

No it wasn't. That's my point

Tide had turned when we were well positioned in the league and in our CL group. Breaking point was reached just a few weeks later.

Lessons hopefully came from it, but I doubt it. I see how flakey some of these Mou lads are.

Originally Posted by LFOD

This guy has the talent and Jose isn't the only mgr to drop him - 1 in 18 for France. They did ok without him.

Is their negative manager still holding France back? Should let them off the leash imo.

Originally Posted by LFOD

This guy has the talent and Jose isn't the only mgr to drop him - 1 in 18 for France. They did ok without him. That being said anyway United could move both him and Jose?

Tbf one usually follows the other. If a player isn't playing/has an unstable club career, international managers usually won't select them.

Martial only started a handful of matches after January.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Tbf one usually follows the other. If a player isn't playing/has an unstable club career, international managers usually won't select them.

Martial only started a handful of matches after January.

Deschamps had better options in M’Bappe & Dembele & he is also a manager who demands a good work ethic & who can play very pragmatic football. Martial goal record for France is not good enough to top it all.

Originally Posted by Kangared

Deschamps had better options in M’Bappe & Dembele & he is also a manager who demands a good work ethic & who can play very pragmatic football. Martial goal record for France is not good enough to top it all.

I think Deschamps likes him. Fast tracked him into the set-up when he was very young and he was given every chance to impress during the build-up as he was involved right until the squad announcement. But his head was down all second half of last season.

When you have the options you mention, it's easier to let Martial sit this one out and hope he's kicked on in two years. Same with Coman.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Tbf one usually follows the other. If a player isn't playing/has an unstable club career, international managers usually won't select them.

Martial only started a handful of matches after January.

Is Mourinho responsible for his failed marriage too?

Originally Posted by utd99

Is Mourinho responsible for his failed marriage too?

Lack of club appearances affect international prospects. This isn't new, nor controversial.

Why do people on here talk about his failed marriage so often btw?

I'm not saying he's the answer, not his biggest fan tbh, but given how slow and shit United are going forwards these days not sure it's the smartest move getting rid. Especially when there's zero chance of a decent replacement arriving.

Run of games on the left, sign a right sided attacker and then Lukaku through the middle. Sanchez as the 10 in 'most' games with two in midfield. Not that hard is it? Although actually signing a right sided attacker appears to be.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Lack of club appearances affect international prospects. This isn't new, nor controversial.

Why do people on here talk about his failed marriage so often btw?

No other footballer has ever had a failed marriage ever pal. Absolute paragons of virtue they are.

Originally Posted by Kangared

Deschamps had better options in M’Bappe & Dembele & he is also a manager who demands a good work ethic & who can play very pragmatic football.

Sounds like a footballing dinosaur. The game’s moved on.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Lack of club appearances affect international prospects. This isn't new, nor controversial.

Why do people on here talk about his failed marriage so often btw?

In your prior post you’ve Just written “he was given every chance to impress during the build-up as he was involved right until the squad announcement”. That doesn’t fit with the idea his lack of appearances for united affected his international prospects.

Why was his head down btw, in a World Cup year whilst being given a chance to impress during the build up? Deschamps not know how to manage him?

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

I think Deschamps likes him. Fast tracked him into the set-up when he was very young and he was given every chance to impress during the build-up as he was involved right until the squad announcement. But his head was down all second half of last season.

When you have the options you mention, it's easier to let Martial sit this one out and hope he's kicked on in two years. Same with Coman.

If Deschamp liked him he would have taken him & used him, the same way that if Jose liked him he would play him more
Give me Zaha any day

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Lack of club appearances affect international prospects. This isn't new, nor controversial.

Why do people on here talk about his failed marriage so often btw?

Tbf Deschamps picked Benjamin Mendy who played a total of 7 games all season.

Originally Posted by AK14

Tbf Deschamps picked Benjamin Mendy who played a total of 7 games all season.

Ahead of a bloke who's just signed for Everton.

Not really the same as competing with Mbappe and Dembele, is it?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

In your prior post you’ve Just written “he was given every chance to impress during the build-up as he was involved right until the squad announcement”. That doesn’t fit with the idea his lack of appearances for united affected his international prospects.

Why was his head down btw, in a World Cup year whilst being given a chance to impress during the build up? Deschamps not know how to manage him?

He was given every chance to impress in the one week Deschamps spent with the players in the six months before the squad was announced. I still expect that his club form would be a bigger part of the consideration when selecting.

I have no idea why we're even arguing about this. Mou's not selecting Martial would clearly impact his chances of beating the other highly talented French attackers to a place in the squad. Why are we debating that?

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Ahead of a bloke who's just signed for Everton.

Not really the same as competing with Mbappe and Dembele, is it?

Goal posts moved

Mendy was there for cheerleading purposes

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Ahead of a bloke who's just signed for Everton.

Not really the same as competing with Mbappe and Dembele, is it?



He was given every chance to impress in the one week Deschamps spent with the players in the six months before the squad was announced. I still expect that his club form would be a bigger part of the consideration when selecting.

I have no idea why we're even arguing about this. Mou's not selecting Martial would clearly impact his chances of beating the other highly talented French attackers to a place in the squad. Why are we debating that?

New to JD? Unless it's pro-Mou, he's arguing. End of.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

A wum repeated often enough is still a wum, September 26 we beat Sunderland to go top by a point, we stayed there for a week. The only thing we managed in November was to win the early KO at Watford and go top for about 3 hours before everybody else had played

So not a wum to say we were top in November then? Apology accepted. Wouldn't be so kind with others.

If we go top of the table for a few hours in late November this season, there won't be outcry. Undeniable point imo. Will probs be denied.